Saved1
Trying to smear Jesus over pagan orgin worship is an abomination and heresy. The Christmas package is a lie and we must stop passing this lie to our children. The only ones benefiting from this is the merchants. Christians are brainwashed into believing that because this packaged lie makes one feel good that Jesus understands that it is meant in love. Jesus does not except this nor did the Disciples and Apostles feed this lie to us.
Please wake-up and stop this before it is too late. The soltice and the Sun-god is the benefactor not our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
May your hearts be pricked into hearing the truth. I was ashamed when I learned the truth, but I stoped it immediatly; you can too. Please hear the truth.
katerina
So let me get this right, we cannot celebrate the birth of our saviour because we don't know the exact date and also there is no reference to celebrating his birth in the Bible?
my views are different as we all know there are missing accounts of the Bible, for whatever reason they were either taken out or not added at all.
I think we should celebrate Christmas even if it's not the exact day..so what if we don't know it? We are celebrating the Birth of Jesus Christ, Our Saviour without his birth and teachings where would we be?
yes there are gimmicks. Christians don't honour father Christmas, or the tree these are nothing what is important is marking a day of the year, any day, that we give our thanks to our Lord.
Easter is the same it really doesn't matter what day Jesus was crucified, the fact remains he was and he rose.
We should take at least one day out of our year to give thanks for his birth and one day out to give thanks for his suffering because of our selfish, greedy ways.
I think you have to ask yourselves why you're even questioning whether you should celebrate these days or not. After all they are in Jesus's honour.
Submitted on Dec 1, 2011, 5:29 pm
katerina
I've known all my life that the holy day is a saturday and I'm a christian. Have you never heard of Sunday being the first day of the week?
What confuses me most about all your posts is that you want to argue about day's and dates which to me are irrelevant.
My understanding of the Crucifixion is that it happened during passover, the Jews celebrate passover at the same time that we celebrate the resurrection. The only way to enter Heaven and be with our Lord is to go through him, to believe that he died and rose for us. As humans we are sinners by nature. We cannot be perfect so Jesus gave us an alternative way. He did this through his unconditional love for us and yet you seek to abolish the memory of such an event. What we do is remember, feel humble and grateful for his undying love. I don't think that's a pagan celebration.
There is only one way
God Bless
Submitted on Dec 1, 2011, 7:20 pm
Steven Britt
Hi Katerina,
I have a hypothetical question for you. Say that you, being a Christian, lived in a society where most people worshiped many different gods. Every year, these people have a big celebration for the triumph of the good gods over the evil gods. They have many traditional practices, such as lighting lamps to welcome good gods, setting off fire crackers to ward off evil gods, and giving each other small gifts and candy. Would you, as a Christian, feel comfortable with taking part in this celebration, using exactly the same traditions, with the intention of honoring the triumph of the true God over Satan?
Deuteronomy 12:30-31 specifically prohibits worshiping God in the same way that other nations worshiped their gods. He was careful to lay out exactly how he wanted to be worshiped, including which days He wanted His people to celebrate (Leviticus 23.) The celebration that I described above is the Hindu Duwali festival. I hope we can agree that no Christian should adopt their practice and mimic the worship of their false gods! However, this is EXACTLY how Christmas and Easter came to be "Christian" celebrations. Christmas is a direct copy of the Roman Saturnalia, and Easter even bears the nam of the pagan goddess it originally celebrated. This is not a matter of whether it is good to celebrate Christ's birth or resurrection: it's a matter of whether to worship our God the way that He specified (in Leviticus 23) as opposed to how the pagans did (Christmas, Easter, St. Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, Halloween, etc.)
One last comment - you said that days and dates are irrelevant to you. God's instructions in Leviticus 23 gave specific dates for when God wanted to be worshiped. Days and dates are important to God, or else He would never have given them.
Submitted on Dec 2, 2011, 9:46 am
dziwczyna
Katerina:
It SHOULD matter to you (and all Christians) that the days celebrated as Christ's birthday and resurrection are both lies and from pagan origins. God hates lies and cannot lie Himself (see Titus 1:2, Prov 6).
The holidays you and many others are celebrating existed well before Christ was even born. They were celebrated in honour of pagan gods. God commanded us not to worship Him in this way (Deut 12:29-32). Christ also said we can worship Him in vain by keeping the commandments of men instead of God's word as doctrine (Matt 15:9, Mark 7:7).
Easter (the resurrection as you claim) is the name of a fertility goddess. In the Bible, the name is Ashtoreth and Asherah, which are the same as Easter. You can do a search on Bible Gateway or in your own Bible to see what God says about worshipping Ashtoreth or Asherah (it's an abomination to him, btw).
We must worship God in truth, as Christ commanded (John 4:24). His word is truth! His commandments are not burdensome (1 John 5:3).
http://www.ucg.org/doctrinal-beliefs/real-nativity-story-surprising-truths-you-may-not-know/
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